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The Quiet One
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Times articles about JW's
by zound ini found a bunch of old time articles about rutherford, fred franz, shunning etc.
only problem is you need to be a time's subscriber to download the full articles.
anyone on here that subscribes could you download them and share?.
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Wow! My brother is just too dumb for words....
by Witness My Fury inok we know it's a stupid mind control cult but sometimes to see it in the flesh is just a slap in the face.... i lent my brother karen armstrongs the bible - the biography, which is a great book to help understand the bible, i have read it twice and it was very informative.
i had hoped my brother may find it likewise and actually learn something.. not a frickin chance.
he gave the book back today with an agitated tone and told me it was crap and that he didnt want me to show him any other books, he had got to page 21, so had only managed the introduction and 12 pages of chapter 1 of a book with 229 pages (300+ if you include glossary and appendix).. inside were some postit noted with notations he'd written about dates quoting from insight volumes and scripture inspired to "correct" the dates in the book for events and dates of reigns like manassahs and hezekiahs.. basically he got mad that the book disagreed with what his drone cult brain read in the wts volumes and refused to read any further.. ffs he didnt even look at another outside source at all, just assumed the book was making error after error on dates and got annoyed.. i am shocked he could be just that dumb.
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The Quiet One
He's not dumb. In jw land, everything in the Watchtower is from their loving heavenly father and absolutely correct.. All outside sources that contradict are ultimately from Satan, a ploy to undermine their faith. I see what you were trying to do, and that's very thoughtful, but to him you may as well have handed him a book entitled: The Watchtower is Wrong about 607BC by T. Hedevil
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Satan must have directed me here
by Miss.Fit ini was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.
the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .
( i was 't expecting that reaction.
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It's a shame that you mentioned the name Conti and the details, otherwise here is the link you could have pointed her to.. http://www.jw-media.org/usa/20120620.htm
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"Pst! You CAN go to an international convention even if you're poor, but don't tell everyone!"
by cedars inthe 2014/2015 international conventions have been announced, and will be held in the following cities.... melbourne, australia october 2014london, england august 2014quito, ecuador january 2015frankfurt, germany july 2014athens, greece june 2014seoul, korea september 2014mexico city, mexico november 2014harare, zimbabwe august 2014as always there is a long list of requirements for those wealthy enough to attend - including the requirement to keep your "exemplary status" right up to the day of departure or lose all your money.. there is also a curious paragraph that seems to indicate an element of subterfuge.... special rooming: confidentially, we will be asking the host branch office to poll local brothers to determine if some might be able to provide limited rooming provisions in private homes.
this information is not to be made known to the applicants in general.
however, if the elders are aware of a longtime, faithful servant, perhaps with many years of full-time service, who is not able to fully finance such a trip, he could be encouraged to apply and the secretary can check the box on the electronic jw.org application that this delegate qualifies for the special rooming provision, if available.. basically, watchtower is admitting that it is possible to attend an international convention even if you can't afford the hotel, but they don't want everyone to know because they want as many full-paying delegates as possible.. my article on this can be found on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/watchtower-announces-new-international-conventions-while-downsizing-district-conventions-for-2014.
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Upcoming KM!! Why we are not False Prophets!
by DATA-DOG inthis subject is coming up this month in the tms.
i just thought i would start a post for newbies or lurkers.
if you have any scans of the awake inside cover that would be awesome.
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The Quiet One
A lot of useful info was compiled on this thread (when I was being an apologist).. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/219689/1/The-Watchtower-is-NOT-a-false-prophet
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'Train your kids to give us money'
by The Quiet One inthis weeks watchtower study, paragraph 11: "even young children can learn to be generous toward jehovah.
'when our family makes a donation at the kingdom hall, we let our children put the money in the contribution box,' says their father, jason.
'they enjoy it because, as they put it, they're giving something to jehovah'.
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This weeks Watchtower study, paragraph 11: "Even young children can learn to be generous toward Jehovah. 'When our family makes a donation at the Kingdom Hall, we let our children put the money in the contribution box,' says their father, Jason. 'They enjoy it because, as they put it, they're giving something to Jehovah'. Children who experience the joy of giving to Jehovah while they are young are likely to continue being generous toward him in adulthood. " .. (the picture on page 14, which we are directed to look at after this paragraph.. shows a young girl smiling as her father helps her put money into the donation box, with the caption quoting Proverbs 3:9.)
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Why does an Omni... God need Jesus and the 144,000 co-rulers?
by jwfacts inat the thread about jaracz steve2 made the following interesting comment.
by now, ted should be finding his heavenly posting a routinized bore: 4 years and still counting.
he will have chaffed at the notion that all decisions are made by jehovah god who consults no one and who brooks no questioning or independent thinking.
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Question for Current or Former Elders (baptism of minors)
by Michelle365 ini have joint custody of my two children with my ex husband who is still raising the kids on his time as jws.
my 11 year old claims she is getting baptized at the next assembly.
i have heard that i can write a letter to the boe and say that i oppose her getting baptized before she is 18. is that true?
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How many JWs are genuinely in "good standing"?
by slimboyfat inan interesting question arose from my earlier thread:.
we all know that many jws do stuff that would get them disfellowshipped, but never get caught.
but how many jws do you think there really are who have never kept any disfellowshipping "offense" secret?
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This is well worth remembering
by The Quiet One inhttp://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world?view=desktop.
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"In 2001, the Awake of July 22 discusses the benefits of volunteering for the United Nations and their need for more volunteers. The turnaround in Watchtower discussion on the United Nations during the 1990s conveniently coincides with the UN application requirement for affiliated NGOs to publicly support their Charter." http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php